Legislature(2021 - 2022)DAVIS 106

05/11/2022 08:00 AM House EDUCATION

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* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
+= SB 111 EARLY EDUCATION; READING INTERVENTION TELECONFERENCED
Failed to Move Out of Committee
+= SB 34 STATE-TRIBAL EDUCATION COMPACT SCHOOLS TELECONFERENCED
Moved HCS CSSB 34(TRB) Out of Committee
          SB 111-EARLY EDUCATION; READING INTERVENTION                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
8:13:02 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  DRUMMOND announced  that  the first  order of  business                                                               
would be CS FOR SENATE BILL  NO. 111(FIN) am, "An Act relating to                                                               
the duties of the Department  of Education and Early Development;                                                               
relating  to public  schools and  school  districts; relating  to                                                               
early  education   programs;  relating   to  funding   for  early                                                               
education programs; relating to  school age eligibility; relating                                                               
to reports by the Department  of Education and Early Development;                                                               
relating   to   reports   by  school   districts;   relating   to                                                               
certification and  competency of teachers; relating  to screening                                                               
reading deficiencies and  providing reading intervention services                                                               
to  public  school  students   enrolled  in  grades  kindergarten                                                               
through three;  relating to textbooks  and materials  for reading                                                               
intervention  services; establishing  a  reading  program in  the                                                               
Department of  Education and Early  Development; relating  to the                                                               
definition  of  'parent' in  education  statutes;  relating to  a                                                               
virtual  education consortium;  and  providing  for an  effective                                                               
date."                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
8:13:28 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  STORY  moved  to adopt  the  proposed  House  committee                                                               
substitute (HCS)  for CSSB 111(EDC), Version  32-LS0485\F, Klein,                                                               
5/8/22, as a working document.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
8:14:09 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  PRAX  objected.    He  spoke  to  his  objection,                                                               
expressing the  opinion that  it would  be difficult  to convince                                                               
the members of the House  of Representatives to pass the proposed                                                               
HCS.  He  suggested that members would be more  familiar with the                                                               
previous  Senate version,  CSSB 111(FIN)  am, which  accomplishes                                                               
one objection and would more likely pass.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
8:14:48 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR STORY urged  the importance of sending  the proposed HCS                                                               
to the  House Finance  Standing Committee.   She  speculated that                                                               
there would be  a robust discussion, and all the  pieces would be                                                               
reviewed.   She  stated that  the proposed  legislation would  be                                                               
good  for students  and has  components and  resources to  make a                                                               
change in reading education statewide.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
8:15:39 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
A roll call  vote was taken.   Representatives Zulkosky, Hopkins,                                                               
Story, and  Drummond voted in  favor of  the motion to  adopt the                                                               
proposed HCS  for CSSB 111,  Version 32-LS0485\F,  Klein, 5/8/22,                                                               
as a working document.   Representatives Cronk, Gillham, and Prax                                                               
voted against  it.  Therefore,  by a vote  of 4-3, Version  F was                                                               
before the committee.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
8:16:54 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The committee took an at-ease from 8:16 a.m. to 8:17 a.m.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
8:17:53 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR DRUMMOND entertained a motion.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
8:18:11 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  STORY  moved  to  report  HCS  CSSB  111,  Version  32-                                                               
LS0485\F,  Klein,  5/8/22,  out   of  committee  with  individual                                                               
recommendations and the accompanying fiscal notes.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
8:18:32 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE ZULKOSKY  objected.   She spoke to  her objection,                                                               
stating  that she  would  not  vote to  pass  HCS CSSB  111(EDC),                                                               
[Version F],  from committee.  She  recognized she may be  in the                                                               
minority  on the  vote  but stated  that she  would  like to  put                                                               
concerns  on the  record for  the public.   She  stated that  the                                                               
committee had  worked hard  on the  proposed legislation  to make                                                               
[Version F] a  good bill.  The work  included: adding protections                                                               
for Indigenous  languages; boosting  the base  student allocation                                                               
funding;     addressing   teacher  retention;   removing  onerous                                                               
statewide student  progression mandates; and  strengthening local                                                               
control [of  education policy].   She thanked  Co-Chairs Drummond                                                               
and Story  for focusing on  the issues that rural  districts face                                                               
and the  needs of  all of Alaska  students, in  particular Alaska                                                               
Native students and immersion students.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE ZULKOSKY  stated that  she could  support [Version                                                               
F]  if it  were in  a vacuum.   But,  she said,  "There is  clear                                                               
daylight between the  bill that I'm looking at now,  and the bill                                                               
that passed  the other body."   After hearing discussions  in the                                                               
hallways  and the  varied discussions  in committee,  she related                                                               
that  she is  not confident  all  of the  positive changes  would                                                               
survive  in the  end; instead,  the final  product would  closely                                                               
resemble the Senate's version.   She clarified that her stance is                                                               
not rooted in  political achievement or gamesmanship,  as she has                                                               
heard repeated concerns from  constituents and other stakeholders                                                               
that  the  Senate's  version would  unintentionally  disadvantage                                                               
small  rural   schools,  Alaska  Native  students,   and  English                                                               
language learners.   She stated  that her concerns are  rooted in                                                               
the protection  of these groups, and  the unintended consequences                                                               
of the legislation would  disproportionately impact these groups,                                                               
relative  to their  peers.   She  stated that  the Department  of                                                               
Education and Early Development  (DEED) already tracks the lowest                                                               
performing schools  and districts  in Alaska,  the bulk  of which                                                               
are schools in  small areas where Alaska Native  students are the                                                               
majority.   She opined  that, looking  at the  status quo  of the                                                               
public education  system and  underachieving students,  Alaska is                                                               
systematically failing  the cultural needs of  Alaska students in                                                               
classrooms across the state.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
8:22:16 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  ZULKOSKY referenced  committee  testimony on  the                                                               
Senate's version  of the  bill, which  related that  every school                                                               
district  has  retention  policies.   She  argued  that  this  is                                                               
factually incorrect.   She pointed  out that she has  talked with                                                               
many school districts that do  not enforce retention policies, as                                                               
they  believe that  retention  is  not in  the  best interest  of                                                               
students.   She indicated that  both co-chairs  have acknowledged                                                               
this on the  record.  She referenced testimony  that conveyed the                                                               
Senate's  version of  the bill  would not  create screeners  as a                                                               
high-stakes tests; however, she pointed  out that this version of                                                               
the  bill  would  create a  standardized  tool  which  determines                                                               
whether a student  passes to the next grade level.   She reasoned                                                               
that  this is  the definition  of a  high-stakes decision  point.                                                               
She maintained that a high-stakes  decision point in standardized                                                               
screening would not set up  the cultural support to help students                                                               
achieve,  particularly  in  her  district.   She  voiced  further                                                               
concerns that the  implementation of the Senate's  version of the                                                               
bill would be  reminiscent of the No Child Left  Behind Act.  She                                                               
expressed the opinion that this  policy had eradicated creativity                                                               
and multilingualism in classrooms,  and the policy ultimately had                                                               
harmed the  inspiration of  students to feel  a desire  to learn.                                                               
She  referenced   the  proponents  of  the   science  of  reading                                                               
philosophy,  who  have  argued  that lower  income  schools  have                                                               
succeeded under this  type of legislation.  She said,  "I want to                                                               
be  really clear  that  cultural needs  are  not synonymous  with                                                               
poverty, and  that is absolutely  a perspective that needs  to be                                                               
set aside."                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE ZULKOSKY voiced the  concern that, relative to the                                                               
Senate's version,  DEED would likely provide  an English-speaking                                                               
reading  specialist from  an  urban area  to  remedy low  reading                                                               
scores in multilingual  rural districts.  She shared  that she is                                                               
from  one  of  the  most  rural  and  economically  disadvantaged                                                               
regions  in the  entire United  State, where  homes lack  running                                                               
water and  reliable broadband.   She  stated that  communities in                                                               
that region perpetually struggle  to recruit and retain teachers.                                                               
She expressed her distrust that  tests could solve the underlying                                                               
inequities  or   address  the  root  causes   of  disparities  in                                                               
educational achievement.   She clarified  that she does  not have                                                               
the "luxury" to  pass a potentially bad policy  because she wants                                                               
"it off  my plate."   She stated that  the effects of  bad policy                                                               
for urban Alaska would be magnified  in rural Alaska and could be                                                               
very detrimental to students and families in those regions.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   ZULKOSKY  continued   that  [Version   F]  would                                                               
implement  policies   that  would   benefit  rural   students  by                                                               
bolstering  cultural structure  for DEED  and districts;  but she                                                               
expressed  doubt  that this  version  of  the bill  would  remain                                                               
intact by final passage.   She recommended that committee members                                                               
consult bill sponsors  at the front end of policy  making, and at                                                               
that  time it  could be  determined  what actually  works in  the                                                               
diverse  parts of  the state.   She  recognized that,  out of  60                                                               
members in the House, she has  a limited ability to shape policy.                                                               
She stated that  she is an Alaska Native woman  educated in rural                                                               
Alaska, who  thrived under the hard  work of a single  mom.  From                                                               
this  perspective, she  expressed  the obligation  to voice  deep                                                               
concern and discomfort  on moving the proposed  legislation.  She                                                               
offered  the hope  that, if  [Version F]  were to  advance, other                                                               
members would acknowledge  the hard work to make  sure the policy                                                               
would not disproportionately  disadvantage Alaska Native students                                                               
and all rural students in the state.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
8:26:36 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The committee took an at-ease from 8:26 a.m. to 8:30 a.m.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
8:30:06 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  CRONK  thanked  Representative Zulkosky  for  the                                                               
comments.   He  stated that  many good  points had  been made  in                                                               
multiple discussions throughout  the session.  He  stated that he                                                               
supported the  original version  of the  bill but  cannot support                                                               
this version.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE ZULKOSKY withdrew her objection.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
8:30:41 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
A roll  call vote  was taken.   Representatives,  Hopkins, Story,                                                               
and Drummond voted  in favor of the motion to  move HCS CSSB 111,                                                               
Version  32-LS0485\F,  Klein,  5/8/22,   out  of  committee  with                                                               
individual  recommendations and  the  accompanying fiscal  notes.                                                               
Representatives Gillham, Zulkosky, Prax,  and Cronk voted against                                                               
it.  Therefore,  HCS CSSB 111(EDC) failed to move  from the House                                                               
Education Standing Committee by a vote of 3-4.                                                                                  

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